Revolution: CALVIN, ARMINIAN, BULTMANN, SERVETUS ON TRINITY AND "ABOBRINHAS."

CALVIN, ARMINIAN, BULTMANN, SERVETUS ON TRINITY AND "ABOBRINHAS."

"God is neither trinity nor triune. GOD IS ONE! Deuteronomy 6:4 says: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)! Attention follows! Detox your reformed minds and read well!!There are not three then, "these three ARE ONE!" Ah! Before you tag me! I am not a Unitarian, neither a Unicist nor a Trinitarian!" Josimar Salum 😂😂😂

CALVIN - I feel like you post things just to get a reaction 😑

SERVETUS - Is this not a good intention! Creeds are not inspired by God like the Scriptures! Are they? Think! Think! Thinking! 😀😀

CALVIN - No one has even brought up a Creed. The doctrine of the trinity is a universal Christian belief, not just a reformed one. You just said "these three". Oops that's a trinity. It's like you say you believe in doctrines themselves but once a name is placed on the doctrine, you deny the title. I don't understand your reason for denying the doctrine of the trinity which clearly states that the three persons of God, the father son and spirit, are one.

SERVETUS - Explain the doctrine of the trinity so I can see if what you are saying it is correct that I am denying the trinity doctrine indeed! If they are one, then ultimately are they three indeed?

CALVIN - Do you believe that God is three persons, that is, the father son and spirit? Each are address and worshipped as God?

SERVETUS - I believe the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit! I believe “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”

Ephesians 4:4, 6 NIV

http://bible.com/111/eph.4.4,6.niv"

I do believe “For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.”

1 Corinthians 8:5-6 NIV

http://bible.com/111/1co.8.5-6.niv

I do believe, "There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.”

1 Corinthians 12:4-6, 12-13 NIV

http://bible.com/111/1co.12.4-6,12-13.niv

If there are three who testify, then ultimately are they three indeed, or ONE!!

Please answer me! Then I have to go back to my mission! 😀😀

CALVIN - You are literally affirming the trinitarian doctrine: that though God is three distinct person, He is ONE immutable being!

SERVETUS - Brother, you are saying it! You know very well doctrines and titles, you label well!

ARMINIAN - Show time!

My friend: are you saying that God is ONE person? As in the Father became the Son than the Son became the Holy Spirit?

SERVETUS - My friend Arminian; you have asked: are you saying that God is ONE person? As in the Father became the Son than the Son became the Holy Spirit? This is what HAVE said!

GOD IS ONE! Deuteronomy 6:4 says: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”

God is ONE!

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)! Attention follows! Detox your reformed minds and read well!! Ultimately There are not three then, "these three ARE ONE!" Ah! Before you tag me again! I am not a Unitarian, neither a Unicist nor a Trinitarian!" Josimar Salum 😂😂😂

ARMINIAN - Ok this is how we need the conversation to go. If one of us answers a question let us answer it with yes or no and than give our explanation with our scripture proofs because one thing I don't want is a conversation where one person is skipping over questions by answering with other questions. Let be very clear and very direct in our responses.

SERVETUS - Calvin has responded to me with questions! I do respond very clear!

ARMINIAN - I'm assuming you believe in Modalism?

SERVETUS - No, I don't believe in Modalism!

ARMINIAN - Just making sure, a lot of people don't on this topic. I wasn't picking on you brother, just clarifying.

SERVETUS - I am relieved, brother ARMINIAN!

BULTMANN - Do you believe that Jesus is God that the father is God and the Holy Spirit is God?

SERVETUS -Yes indeed! No doubt!

ARMINIAN - Ok SERVETUS! so what do u believe? How is God 1? See as Trinitarians believe God is 1 also but not 1 in person. 1 in Unity, 1 in essence, 1 in being. So we agree He is One but the question is One What? You know what we mean as One, so what do you mean by God being One brother!

SERVETUS -I mean GOD IS ECHAD. Deuteronomy 6:4 says: YAWH IS EXCHAD! ONE!

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

John 1:1, 14 NIV

http://bible.com/111/jhn.1.1,14.niv

I BELIEVE (please, I am saying I BELIEVE!) THE WORD, GOD BECAME FLESH!

BULTMANN - Ok do you believe that Jesus in the garden was speaking to the father?

SERVETUS - Was Jesus in the Garden? I think “He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.”

John 1:2-5 NIV

http://bible.com/111/jhn.1.2-5.niv

BULTMANN - And who was Jesus talking to here

“When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”

John 17:1-3 ESV

http://bible.com/59/jhn.17.1-3.esv

Jesus clearly identifies him separate from the father and shows that the father sent the son!

SERVETUS - Yes, indeed! BULTMAN, what is it your point? I just asked in my statement DON'T tag me!!!! 😳😳😳😳 "God is neither trinity nor triune. GOD IS ONE! Deuteronomy 6:4 says: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)! Attention follows! Detox your reformed minds and read well!!There are not three then, "these three ARE ONE!" Ah! Before you tag me again! I am not a Unitarian, neither a Unicist nor a Trinitarian!"

BULTMANN - The son became flesh. Not the father nor the son. Jesus spoke with God the father and spoke about the Holy Spirit Indwelling us not Jesus as separate persons. Yes three persons in one Being.

Just like how TWO people become ONE flesh. And just like in Genesis God said let us make man in OUR image and in OUR likeness! Yea the same word is used for the two shall be one flash the word ECHAD.

SERVETUS - BULTMANN, You have said the son became flesh Not the father nor the son. What do you mean?

(SILENCE)

SERVETUS - Am I going to be kicked out! Have you, any of you prepared already a stake for me? Is it tou, CALVIN?

(MORE SILENCE)

SERVETUS : Arminian said before Show Time! Ok! Then Show time is over! Don't discuss with me! 😂😂😂😂😂At least today! It is Sunday morning, 11 AM, you should be in church!

Read carefully! This I believe:

I believe the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit! I believe “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”